Stock from Wittner 2013

8/1/2013

I just want to get some input from you guys and girls. I have placed my first order with Wittner (nice guys) for 100D and V50D S8 carts & with the UPS shipping each cart is costing me around £21. Very expensive and this will be the roundabout baseline for colour reversal film in future. Because the film stock is so expensive to buy in, I'll probably only sell it with process paid or process+telecine to try and keep the overall costs down. However with paypal and ebay fees we're talking about a pretty steep rise from my current prices. It's going to be around £32-33 pounds for a process paid cart and £40ish for a film+process+telecine. Pricy to say the least but realistically this is as good as it's going to get for colour reversal now. I just want to know what peoples thought are on this? Will you pay that much to keep using super 8 colour reversal? It's worrying because I suspect many people wont and this will decrease my turnaround time and generally have a negative effect over a prolonged period of time.

26 Comments

James

8/1/2013 06:34:19 am

Probably stuff you've already thought of, but I'll say it anyway just in case:

1) Do Wittner know that you're running a business? If so are those prices already wholesale prices? If not, then surely you qualify for bulk/wholsale discounts?

2) Sometimes foreign companies/shops don't realise that the international shipping methods they offer aren't the best value for money. Might Wittner be interested in using services other than UPS?

3) I'm not aware of other UK Super-8 shops stocking Wittner film - are they not keen to get a foothold here, if so I'd have thought they'd be more willing to do you a better deal?

Kevin Timmins

8/1/2013 12:12:46 pm

Hi James,

1) Indeed they do... they wont decrease colour reversal to resellers and they wont reduce price with large orders.

2) I can inquire about cheaper postage. I will do that, thanks.

3) Not to sure what their motivations are. They just said no discounts possible due to the very high price they had to pay for the stock.

All the best
Kevin

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8/1/2013 03:01:33 pm

Hi Kevin.
Unfortunately those kind of prices would drive me away from shooting film though I dont shoot a lot. It really is a shame, but if I find I can grab a roll of 100D or any other Kodak E6 reversal film from ebay or any other place I would send them to you to process as long as E6 chemicals are available..

Best.
John.

9/1/2013 12:54:07 am

I suspect a lot of people feel the same way as you John, at least you still have black and white film at a good price though. I'll be investing a lot in B&W so even if you are disappointed with where colour reversal has got itself hopefully you can support the B&W side of things.

Simon Faraday-Drake

9/1/2013 01:03:49 pm

Hi Kevin

I think i would use the colour reversal service even at those prices but it would only be on an occasional basis.

I will definitely keep using the B&W service and i'm really looking forward to your telecine service.

Like many others i will also be looking to see who's doing the best deals on negative processing and telecine as i would like to give it a go. In the past i had it processed by ANDEC in Germany and telecine done by Upsaala Bildtekink in Sweden. It came out well but it's a bit of a faff. Would be great if there was a reasonably priced one stop shop.

All the best

Simon

19/1/2013 02:51:07 am

Thanks Simon, I too cannot wait to get the telecine on the go. I'll be looking into B&W neg soon but colour is tricky due to the remjet backing and the time it takes to remove it. You never know though with time I might be able to process colour neg. Thanks for supporting the little shop!

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10/1/2013 07:15:26 pm

Hello Kevin, great to see you exploring all the options. I'm only a very occasional film (Super8) user, and have only been using reversal. (64T then 100D). I suspected the prices would shoot up now we're relying on niche suppliers like Wittner... and I think this will put me off. Kodak's negative films could be a better option though, while they're still here. But my Nizo 156XL isn't rated to meter properly from any of the now available Kodak neg. film speeds; surely many cameras now wont light-meter properly now with only 50,200 and 500 film speeds available? In all the discussion of our options, I've not heard any discussion about this yet??? Any ideas on this please?

19/1/2013 02:46:45 am

Fortunately 50D will work in pretty much all cameras as far as I'm aware. It's compatible with the 40asa (minor difference in exposure). as far as the 200 and 500asa cameras, as it's always been the more capable and expensive cameras will rate these correctly. I'm going to be looking into B&W neg in 2013 but colour neg is a little more difficult to process.

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21/1/2013 08:56:34 am

Thanks so much, my camera is rated for the 40asa I think, so maybe 50asa is indeed 'close enough'. I'd like to try some Kodak 50D negative soon, but although it was announced in December, it doesn't seem to be available anywhere yet.... Kodak 100D (super8) supplies seems to have run out already, I've just heard Andec don't have any to sell anymore...

21/1/2013 08:57:25 am

21/1/2013 08:58:16 am

Thanks so much, my camera is rated for the 40asa I think, so maybe 50asa is indeed 'close enough'. I'd like to try some Kodak 50D negative soon, but although it was announced in December, it doesn't seem to be available anywhere yet. Kodak 100D (super8) supplies seems to have run out already, I've just heard Andec don't have any to sell anymore.

21/1/2013 08:58:48 am

Thanks so much, my camera is rated for the 40asa I think, so maybe 50asa is indeed 'close enough'. I'd like to try some Kodak 50D negative soon, but although it was announced in December, it doesn't seem to be available anywhere yet. Kodak 100D (super8) supplies seems to have run out already...

20/1/2013 02:51:16 pm

Any thoughts on the Foma Fomapan R100? Very well priced (€20 less than Kodak for 100ft) and its available in 100ft reels Standard 8. I'm using Foma in my 5x4 large format at the moment with really nice results; anyone tried it in cine? James

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22/3/2013 05:29:18 am

Have Wittner given any indication as to whether their new Agfa based stock will be significantly cheaper than Velvia?

If it ends up being the world's budget reversal stock of choice, then it may remain affordable.

I for one will continue to shoot, but the frequency may have to diminish if the costs are very high.

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